[BVC-CHAT] Ride the ROT on Sunday!

[texafornia at gmail.com]

Whoa, whoa, whoa... Not even close to trying to start a flame war between  
roadies and tri-geeks. Both are awesome. I'm saying that I'm riding  
triathlon style on sunday mornings, no drafting, come with if you want,  
here's the average speed.

I've ridden flagpole a ton and it's fun. Lots of fun.

IF you want to come ride a different style of riding and try it out, ride  
with me on Sunday morning. BVC can always use more diversity and different  
kinds of rides to pull in more cyclists.

On Jun 26, 2009 3:17pm, Christopher Menzel <cmenzel at tamu.edu> wrote:
> On Jun 26, 2009, at 2:31 PM, texafornia at gmail.com wrote:


> Drafting is "cheating" and you'll pull away from those that aren't. 70  
> miles non-drafting is 70 miles.




> Well, there are no doubt different philosophies and different communities  
> at work here, but among most roadies drafting is definitely not in any  
> sense "cheating". For one thing, for most mere mortals, drafting mile  
> after mile behind the likes of Baker, Efrain, Herc, and Haga is  
> exceedingly challenging and you simply won't stay with those guys if you  
> don't. And even in a more balanced bunch, rather than 70 miles of very  
> steady effort you'll alternate between hard efforts at the front and  
> easier efforts in a draft. Assuming the pace is high enough, you will  
> definitely work at least as hard as you would on a slower, steadier,  
> non-drafting ride.




> Draft and it's like doing much less.




> Come out Saturday morning and let's see how you feel after the run in to  
> Caldwell. ;-)




> It's definitely harder,




> You just can't say that without qualification. I don't mean to be setting  
> up a flamewar between roadies and triathletes. There are just different  
> ways to ride 70 miles and different reasons for riding one way rather  
> than another. How hard a ride is depends much more on whom you are riding  
> with and how you are riding than on whether or not you are drafting. And  
> which is better depends very much on what you are training for. If you  
> want to race on the road, a strict diet of steady, no draft riding is not  
> the way to train. You've got to know how to ride in a fast group where  
> most people are drafting.



> That said, while I understand and respect your own desire not to draft, I  
> still don't understand the general policy. If you don't want to draft,  
> then don't. But why prevent others from doing so? Why make the ride more  
> restrictive if it doesn't affect how you yourself would like to ride?  
> Does it damage the group morale somehow if there are some drafters in the  
> mix? These questions aren't intended to be obnoxious, I'm just trying to  
> understand. (I myself might join you, at least to the top of Mt  
> Unpleasant, if I can schlep myself out of bed that early.)



> -chris



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