[Bvc-chat] [BVC-info] Lick Creek Hike and Bike Trail
thomaswoodfin at yahoo.com
Thu Jan 26 14:35:13 CST 2012
The subdivision that objects to the Lick Creek Hike & Bike Trail implementation has an HOA dominated by creekside landowners who don't want anyone in their back yards. Those landowners hold the other ~200 homeowners without creek frontage hostage to their selfish agenda. The HOA is bound by its statutes to maintain the creekway which it has not done. The City has no responsibility or legal liability for it since that portion of Lick Creek is not public ROW. The increased runoff from the upper end of the drainage basin as it has been developed over the past five years now erodes that section of the creek in increasingly serious stages. The city has offered to improve the channel in order to put the trail through it but the HOA has refused.
The subdivision's refusal to have the hike & bike trail along their section of the creek will probably save the city around a quarter million dollars in the trail funding (including channel improvements) to use more fruitfully elsewhere along its 3-mile length. Since the creek erosion is going to require re-configuration through their section anyway in the near future, the HOA can pay for its legally-mandated maintenance out of assessments to each of its members, both creekside and otherwise. I spent hours trying to discuss this issue with HOA leadership to no avail. Their minds were made up and no recitation of the facts or future requirements as mandated in their own statutes could alter their opinions.
The Lick Creek Hike & Bike Trail is going to be a fabulous addition to the city's greenways connections. I look forward to visiting again and riding it.
Thomas M. Woodfin, ASLA RLA
232 Ness Drive
Norman, Oklahoma 73069-9730
From: Brett <texafornia at gmail.com>
To: bvc-chat at philebus.tamu.edu
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Bvc-chat] [BVC-info] Lick Creek Hike and Bike Trail
I talked to a guy that went last night, too. He said it was a good meeting. I hope that now that both the City and the citizens have experience with this kind of stuff, this one will be better. Thanks for going, Jean Marie!
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 9:31 AM, Christopher Menzel <cmenzel at tamu.edu> wrote:
Am Jan 26, 2012 um 2:17 PM schrieb Wolfgang Bangerth:
>>What the neighborhood people here were opposed to are (i) flood plain adjustments, (ii) looks. Both is valid, I think: some of my neighbors have a slab whose upper edge is only 1-2 ft above the flood plain, so any modification to the creek might lead to higher floods. The city does not have a good record on this...
>You've got that right. When I lived in CS they redid the streets without rethinking drainage. As a result, runoff whose flow was hindered by old rough streets turned into a torrent on the smooth new ones and several people (including me) got flooded — in my case, twice before they fixed the problem. So yeah. Be very afraid of proposals that could involve a fairly radical change to drainage patterns.
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